Who Hurt Kristen Yoder?
In 2005, CannaBS Detector Kristen Yoder started her career in weed as a Venice budtender, when only a few dispensaries dotted the Southern California landscape. In 2020 she’s the curmudgeonly voice of those heartbroken by the ups and downs of legal weed. She shares with Alex and Donnell a string of blistering observations that might make you rethink your REC-era approach. Also: Our hosts’ hemp and CBD enthusiasms.
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This transcript has been lightly edited for clarity.
Alex Halperin (00:04):
Welcome to WeedWeek. I’m Alex Halperin.
Donnell Alexander (00:06):
And I’m Donnell Alexander.
Alex Halperin (00:08):
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Donnell Alexander (00:27):
Joining this week, we have Kristen Yoder . Do you know how I know Kristen Yoder ?
Alex Halperin (00:32):
How do you know her?
Donnell Alexander (00:33):
She was my budtender back in 2010, and then I looked on the internet and she’s a famous weed person.
Alex Halperin (00:38):
I know her on LinkedIn. She is just constantly and accurately calling people out and posting.
Donnell Alexander (00:47):
Just to be clear that it was and accurately not inaccurately.
Alex Halperin (00:52):
Yeah, and accurately. They’re calling people out on bad behavior in the industry and just drawing attention to lawsuits and various other practices. So, in person she’s every bit the firecracker. I’m a fan.
Donnell Alexander (01:10):
Yeah. Well, the thing is this is not the up with people episode. I don’t think Cat Packer is going to enjoy this episode. If you’re listening to Cole Elliott the same for you.
Alex Halperin (01:19):
I don’t think…
Donnell Alexander (01:21):
Well, they listen and I’m going to tell you.
Alex Halperin (01:23):
No, I’m sure they listen, but I don’t see anything they could have a problem with.
Donnell Alexander (01:26):
There was something she said there that, from what I’ve heard, I’ve actually heard one of these government officials say, “Is an aim for next year.” That’s how spot on she is with her calls. She says something that needs to happen that I think later in this year, we’re all going to be seeing happen. And your job will be as listeners to discern from the context what I’m talking about.
Alex Halperin (01:50):
But anyway, I mean, she’s really smart, really knowledgeable and a lot of fun.
Donnell Alexander (01:56):
Experienced that’s what’s interesting, I think. She’s seen it all. Otherwise that stuff wouldn’t be credible. She’d just be another complaining person in cannabis. We have a subject everyone’s favorite subject except perhaps ours: CBD. Do you use CBD?
Alex Halperin (02:12):
Donnell Alexander (02:13):
And I was given an amazing tincture, 30:1 from a very famous brand that I’m not going to advertise here. And it was so good. I am coming on board for CBD.
Alex Halperin (02:23):
What did it do for you?
Donnell Alexander (02:24)
Well, it was 30:1. So it wasn’t like I got super high, but I do enjoy the lift, the physical sort of lift that I get from CBD. It was very expensive. I never would have spent this money on my own. I wouldn’t have bought it on my own.
Alex Halperin (02:37):
There was just an article in Leafly asking, “Do I really need weed in my lipstick?” And sort of the idea is that there’s so much hype about CBD doing everything now, the author tries to look a little bit at whether it’s any good as a topical, whether it’s useful in lipstick and sort of as a proxy, all the other things that people think it might be good for. And she sort of concludes that, yeah, it’s pretty good for a lot of things, even though the science isn’t there yet.
Donnell Alexander (03:09)
CBD is this trendy thing now. We can take it or leave it, but it is so here to stay. You know what it made me think about that? I was reading a risk management guide for hemp producers, this incredibly boring thing that’s being sent out to farmers all over the country, at the counties all over the country. And it just made me think we don’t care about CBD, but it is here to stay. I mean, it’s going to dwarf the THC market I’ve heard. And I was just checking out as I often do, the World Ag Expo and they just made it like a centerpiece basically of the event.
Alex Halperin (03:45):
I mean, that’s really crazy. I guess sort of like various other nutritional supplements, just people, I don’t use any of them. So, I guess I’m not really the target customer, but people get very excited about them.
Donnell Alexander (04:02)
And you know, I don’t have to say that hemp can be used for so many other things. So that was probably driving the ag interest in it more than lipstick.
Alex Halperin (04:12):
I’m a sort of a cheerleader for hempcrete, the building material, the upside of hempcrete. Making concrete for building materials. It produces a huge amount of greenhouse gases and the world is actually running out of sand.
Donnell Alexander (04:31)
I did not know that.
Alex Halperin (04:32):
And sand is the main ingredient in concrete. Concrete causes big problems and hempcrete is, I’ve heard it’s a net negative on greenhouse gases. It just has all kinds of benefits.
Donnell Alexander (04:49)
I think there’s just going to be so much more beyond hempcrete, beyond lipstick that we’re going to be using it for. And I guess this is the podcast episode where I tell you we’ve got to get on the bandwagon. I think it’s going to look like a bad take to have in 2020 that you didn’t give a shit about CBD. You know, you have no energy for this argument.
Alex Halperin (05:08):
I guess not.
Donnell Alexander (05:09):
Let’s talk to Kristen and go hemp.
Tell me, who I have to be To get some reciprocity No one loves you more than me And no one ever will.
Donnell Alexander (05:33):
Welcome to WeedWeek, Kristen.
Kristen Yoder (5:36):
Thank you for having me.
Donnell Alexander (05:37):
Kristin, you go back very far in cannabis and beyond a wreck. You’re kind of an OG and that’s a lot of what your platform is based on. Can you tell us about that?
Kristen Yoder (05:48):
Yes. So I’ve been in the cannabis industry since 2005 in Los Angeles, which there really wasn’t much of an industry when we started, West Hollywood and my experiences in Venice and I think there were like four dispensaries in 2005, in 2006 there were like, I don’t know, 10 dispensaries and then in 2007 there were like a hundred and then 2008, there was like a thousand. It was just insane.
Donnell Alexander (06:19):
Yeah, for a lot of people that thousand times sounds unbelievable.
Kristen Yoder (06:23):
Yeah, I think probably at the peak, there was like 4,000 dispensaries they’re on every other block.
Donnell Alexander (06:32):
Yeah. There were like more than Starbucks, right?
Kristen Yoder (06:34):
Yeah, there were more than McDonald’s or something like that. But it’s a different vibe in every neighborhood too. So, like in the Valley on Sepulveda, they would have strippers that were the budtenders. It just depends on who owned it. A lot of it was owned by different mafias, like the Russian mafia or the Armenian people. It was crazy. Where I came from my dispensary…
Donnell Alexander (06:59):
We talked a little bit about your dispensary earlier.
Kristen Yoder (07:01):
Yeah, you have a video of me.
Donnell Alexander (07:04):
It was a special place. We’ll put it on the show page but tell us about the Venice dispensary.
Kristen Yoder (07:10):
So it’s funny, it was started by Carl C. and when he started it, he was super paranoid about the cops and the DEA and everything. So the first name was California Alternative Christian Discount Dispensary. And then there was this website.
Donnell Alexander (07:29):
What did the discount do for it?
Kristen Yoder (07:31):
Nothing. There was a weed tracker back in the day turned into a spammy thing, but someone put that there was like a 15 foot Jesus statue in the front room. So he took out Christian, and then it was just alternative caregiver’s discount dispensary. Until we got raided by the DEA.
Donnell Alexander (07:55):
When did that happen?
Kristen Yoder (07:56):
The day Eric Holder took office as attorney general, right before then there was the Ogden memo, which was similar to the Cole memo and that they were saying you cannot go into states with medical cannabis and raid them without being called in first. Like we’re not going to keep paying for this. So the DEA fuck you. The minute Eric Holder took office they raided five dispensaries in Venice. I mean, we had always been super paranoid. We were never on Weedmaps. We never advertised, was always word of mouth. So, I didn’t expect anything until I put my key in the door and they put handcuffs on me. And luckily, we weren’t open. So, there was no guns or anything like that. And they locked the door behind them while they ruined everything. So that was fun.
Alex Halperin (08:45):
Were you prosecuted?
Kristen Yoder (08:47):
No, no, no one ever was it was all smashed and grab. So I don’t know what it’s like today, but back then, the first thing they do is come in with guns and scare everybody. The second thing they do is smash all the cameras. So, you can’t see anything, which is a different story in Santa Ana, one time the cops did this. They were harassing this woman in a wheelchair and they were total dicks, but they didn’t get one of the cameras and they got caught eating the fucking edibles. Like this is just such irony. So, when the DEA came, they weren’t wearing police shirts, but they were the DEA. So all they did was present a search warrant saying cannabis is a federally illegal drug and they took everything and I was the only one there. So, they sent me a receipt of seizure, which was completely underestimating the value of what they took. And that’s it.
Donnell Alexander (09:42):
When it makes the papers, they always overestimate the value of what they took.
Kristen Yoder (09:46):
Yeah. In the papers, but they lie.
Donnell Alexander (09:51):
Alex Halperin (09:51):
In that Santa Ana story what I love about it was that the cops, I don’t remember if they were shown to be eating edibles or not.
Kristen Yoder (10:01):
Alex Halperin (10:02):
But I do remember they said that they shouldn’t be blamed or prosecuted or hold it held accountable for what the video captured because they thought they had disabled all the cameras.
Kristen Yoder (10:16):
You know what’s interesting? All those guys got fired, but when police kill innocent people…
Donnell Alexander (10:22):
So, I don’t want to get too far away from that. Because I did bring up California Christian Alternative Discount.
Kristen Yoder (10:34):
Oh yeah, after the raid I changed it that day to California Alternative Caregivers. So that if you Googled it, you couldn’t find the raid associated to it. And discount dispensary does not help you make money.
Donnell Alexander (10:46):
So here’s the thing I showed you the video, I made this film of you because I thought you were a really important person in my cannabis place. Leilani was that her name?
Kristen Yoder (10:58):
Yeah, Leilani was the other girl.
Donnell Alexander (11:00):
you guys, you two were so specific in attending to my needs. I remember once I went in because I always got Endoca and I ordered sativa and I remember Leilani’s eyes bugging us. “You sure you want to do that?” And that doesn’t happen anymore. I mean, maybe there are certain places where it does, but you in particular, your whole aura seems different than now in a sense. I listened to a bunch of stuff in preparation for the interview and you come off a lot of different ways. You have different areas of expertise. But the thing that stands out is the sort of curmudgeon voice that you have. After I looked at the image of you, I thought who hurt Kristen?
Kristen Yoder Audio (11:36):
“After having all the other dispensaries moved in here, I feel very grateful to have such a committed patient base. Most of our patients are older. Most of them very ill. And they’re also really caring and compassionate. We’re lucky to have them. They’re like family.”
Like it was just very bullshit, you know?
Donnell Alexander (11:59):
So I want to embroider it out so we can talk. I know you’ve had specific traumas, but kind of what I was asking the question about is it’s a tough road from 2010 to 2020. And I guess I’m kind of wondering without dealing with a whole bunch of people’s specific cases, if you feel like we lost a lot of good people along the way.
Kristen Yoder (12:21):
I mean, when you don’t pay people correctly and when you take advantage of their good nature.
Donnell Alexander (12:25):
Do you feel like this is an industry wide then?
Kristen Yoder (12:27):
Oh yeah, absolutely. In a dispensary alone, budtenders generally don’t get paid very well because everyone wants to be a budtender. So there’s no reason to pay people when you can replace them all the time. I’ve never seen budtenders getting trained about what they’re doing. Usually the dispensary owners are like dealing with all the vendors and everything. And everybody loves the dispensary owner. Everyone wants to be friends with them. So, everyone below them takes the shit and people can’t afford to live off of those kinds of wages in the first place. It’s like that everywhere. We didn’t have employment protection because none of these places were legal in the first place. I mean, who do you go to? So that’s been a big problem in everything. In a different job I had in the industry, I found out I was getting paid half as much as this guy that just got hired with none of the experience or background that he needed. And then I found out all the women were getting paid half as much as men, even though we’re the ones doing all the work.
Alex Halperin (13:31):
You have sort of carved out a role for yourself. It’s really calling out a lot of bullshit. In the end don’t you even call yourself the kind of BS detector?
Kristen Yoder (13:39):
Alex Halperin (13:40):
I’m a fan, but can you tell us a bit about what you’ve taken to calling out and what kind of response you get?
Kristen Yoder (13:47):
I have never met a single person that doesn’t like me in the industry because I say what everyone’s dealing with and they can’t say it because they have financial issues. I don’t give a fuck. I’m like, look A) I have a cute voice. And that takes the edge off all the shit I’m saying B) I’m funny so I can crack jokes about it. But my goal as the bullshit detector is to call out bullshit. So other people don’t have to experience it in the first place. It’s like learn from my lessons. Be aware, like the more good natured you are, the easier you are to be taken advantage of. That’s just a fact. So, I’m not here to make people not get into the industry. I want them to know what to look out for.
Donnell Alexander (14:34):
Tell us about some of the places where you’re talking about the industry. Because I saw three different podcasts, you’re doing a lot of talking.
Kristen Yoder (14:41):
I know. Well I’m on the radio.
Donnell Alexander (14:42):
I’m saying that in the good way.
Kristen Yoder (14:43):
Yeah. I’m on the radio every Friday night from 7 to 8:30 in San Diego on 89.1 FM.
Alex Halperin (14:51):
You have your own show?
Kristen Yoder (14:52):
We have four people on the show. I’m like the cynical stoner voice. And then there’s a comedian and the guy who wrote “How to use Microsoft office.” And then Jody, who’s like this really funny lesbian chick. So, we just play off of each other.
Alex Halperin (15:11):
What’s the name of the show?
Kristen Yoder (15:12):
It’s called Notes From the Underground.
Donnell Alexander (15:14):
We’ll include a link.
Kristen Yoder (15:15):
Yeah. I’ve been on that for two years. Then I had a Dash Radio show through Purple Haze. That was called Story Time, which was just bringing people in the industry to talk about the craziness that they experience. And then I have the Cannabis BS Detector, which is where I’m going over the bullshit on the B2B side of what we as business people have to deal with from over taxation crazy regulations. Just all kinds of different things that we have to deal with that are not anticipated or expected or normal for other industries.
Donnell Alexander (15:52):
If you had to single out one piece of bullshit that’s really putting a bee in your bonnet in 2020, what would it be?
Kristen Yoder (15:59):
There’s so many.
Donnell Alexander (16:00):
I know, I ask the tough questions.
Kristen Yoder (16:02):
I think that really it’s seeing all of these fucking investors coming in and investing in the wrong companies that are just, I mean, I don’t work with people trying to exploit the industry, but I will work with investors that want to invest in a good company because they believe in the plant and they see something good. The good companies are generally really bad at pitching, but what I’m seeing is like MedMen or these other companies in Canada that are just going to shit. Their collateral damage is massive. Like MedMen not paying their vendors, how many people is that? How many people do they employ? How many employees are at MedMen? And while I cheer for them to fail, because fuck them, at the same time I feel bad for the collateral damage, but at the same time, welcome to the cannabis industry. We’re all collateral damage at some point like if you expect this to be easy, you’re not going to last very long.
Alex Halperin (16:58):
On LinkedIn you post a lot of great material. Where do you get it? Where do you go digging?
Kristen Yoder (17:05):
I mean to be honest. I don’t even know. It’s like when I see it, I post it. You know? I think that my bullshit detection is I read these things and I’m like, wow, that is such bullshit. And then I post it.
Alex Halperin (17:17):
You are like a journalist.
Kristen Yoder (17:18):
Thank you. I mean, if I knew how to write better, I would love to get into that.
Donnell Alexander (17:22):
It’s really interesting. We had a guest on recently who posted on social media that they were going to become a journalist or maybe thinking about it. I remember thinking, wow I applaud you for not jumping into journalism because it’s not like an overnight thing. And I know you know that.
Kristen Yoder (17:38):
I don’t believe in getting formal education to do something. I learn as I do.
Donnell Alexander (17:44):
Yeah, me too. I want to ask you about consulting because you do that as well.
Kristen Yoder (17:49):
I advise, I don’t consult.
Donnell Alexander (17:51)
What’s the distinction?
Kristen Yoder (17:53):
A consultant is someone that implements. If you need a consultant to help you with a business plan, you need a consultant to help you implement an ERP or something. A consultant helps with licensing. An advisor, I’m not touching your work. That’s on you, but I’m here to advise you on, is that a good direction? Have you thought about this? Let me do some research. You don’t feel right about something your lawyer said, tell me. I’ve been in every sector and I’m a big researchaholic, nothing I post hasn’t been researched. And I make sure that I’m right, because I know people trust what I say. And I take that very seriously, but I’m tired of helping people that aren’t going to win anyways. I’m here to advise people that want to get into the industry, that want to invest in the industry to make sure A) they have a viable idea and B) they know what they’re up against so they cannot do it if they’re not prepared or when they do it, they are prepared. But I got to tell you, I talk a lot of people out of it, entrepreneurs.
Alex Halperin (18:55):
Give an example of somebody you’ve talked out of the industry.
Kristen Yoder (18:59):
I mean, there’s so many people that had cancer and cannabis cured it, or whatever really helped them. Or they have a family member that they created a topical for. And it really helped their family member. That’s fucking fantastic. But that doesn’t mean you should start a cannabis company. Do you have the money for it? Do you understand if you have THC touching all the legal shit that comes with that, like all the compliance? Generally, I just do a viability analysis where I sit down. I’m like, tell me what you got. And then I ask them a bunch of questions to figure out if they’ve thought through everything. And they haven’t. And generally, when I talk someone out of starting a business, I tell them to go work at a cannabis, like get your learn on someone else’s dime. See what it’s really like, then make a decision, compliance is so expensive.
Donnell Alexander (19:50):
Yeah. Yeah. This is a question that just popped in my head. I don’t know if it’s a good one, but I feel like we don’t have people like you here very much who will say whatever. If you could pick out the next coming catastrophe, do you see anything?
Kristen Yoder (20:05):
Alex Halperin (20:07):
Kristen Yoder (20:08):
Look, California has legalization. How’s that working out for us? Two thirds of the state opt it out completely of everything. We don’t even have medical dispensaries that are allowed in the two thirds of the state. They’re like, fuck everything. So, what do we have? We have raids in these cities. Anza has raids every Monday. They’re just knocking people out.
Alex Halperin (20:31):
Anza? Is that a city?
Kristen Yoder (20:32):
Yeah, that’s a city. That’s a city in Riverside. So, A) you could create a pathway to licensing so that people could just fucking pay taxes and not be criminals or you could ban everything. And then you are giving an illicit industry its place. So, what do you think is going to happen with national legalization, that the South is going to adopt it? No dude, they’re not going to adopt it. Lots of states are going to be like “state’s rights” and you’re going to still have crime. Except once you legalize, now the big companies that have not gotten in yet, that’s when they come in and they will consolidate and shut everyone down. People think big weed is Canadian companies. No, it’s not, big weed is Bayer, Syngenta. These agricultural companies. If you look at any profitable agricultural commodity, are there craft brands? No, there isn’t. Like apples. For example, there’s a shit ton of apple varieties. But how many are at the grocery store? Like five and they’re not even good. Red apples are not good. Green apples are not good.
Donnell Alexander (21:42):
So, there’s so much I’m going to push back on here, starting with the apples.
Kristen Yoder (21:44):
Donnell Alexander (21:46):
I have a thing for green apples, but I just want to say that I think what you’re saying is pretty forward looking and I’m glad you’re saying it on our mics, but I also know that I covered the California newsletter for WeedWeek and I’m reading about everything that happens in California. And whether you’re talking about Merced County or Stanislaus County, all these places that resisted at the beginning, every two or three weeks there’s a new one coming on board. And I don’t know. You don’t think that would happen in the national sphere?
No, dude. America is like 11 regions. California encompasses like five different regions. There’s a reason why every four years everyone wants to break the state up. It’s because LA is different than Orange County, is different than East California, in the middle of where it’s all agriculture is different than North Cal where some of its super conservative and some of its cannabis growers. It’s so different. That to think that the Bible Belt will come on line? No, I don’t ever see that happening. We can barely get the medical cannabis. You know what I’m saying? So it’s not that I’m against legalization. I’m against what’s out there. So there’s the MORE act and there’s the States act. The MORE act I believe is the better one because they believe in getting social equity. They believe in social equity. They believe in letting people out of jail for cannabis. They’re more of a decriminalization type of thing. And to me, that’s where we need to focus. Legalization is a massive set of laws. Laws are broken, laws make for shit tons of lawsuits. When you decriminalize something, it still needs to be regulated. Agriculture is still regulated, but it’s not a crime. And that’s the biggest problem with cannabis, even when it’s legal, it’s still illegal in some places. So as long as people can get arrested for it, what are we achieving? Other than making it easier for highly regulated businesses to come in and take over.
Alex Halperin (23:54):
I mean, that’s probably what’s going to happen.
Kristen Yoder (23:56):
It’s going to happen.
Donnell Alexander (23:58):
What do you have next on your agenda on your professional life?
Kristen Yoder (24:04):
I’m going to have my own show. Like I’m going to be the John Oliver or the Bill Maher of the cannabis industry.
Donnell Alexander (24:10):
Be the John Oliver.
Kristen Yoder (24:11)
I know, right? No. I mean, I love Real Time with bill Maher structure, where he gets to talk some shit. Then he has someone he brings on, which for me, I would bring on another bullshit detector guest, like a cool lawyer, someone that’s doing good work. We’ll talk about whatever they’re working on. Then I’d have a panel with three totally different views on something. Because to me the value add comes from including everybody in the conversation and then have my tips. And then that’s it.
Alex Halperin (24:43):
Are you going to do this on YouTube?
Kristen Yoder (24:44):
I mean, hopefully someday I’ll be like on HBO. I plan on being a curmudgeon until I fucking die.
Donnell Alexander (24:51):
Are you from here?
Kristen Yoder (24:53)
I was born here, but I was raised in Arizona until 16 when I moved to Alaska until 20, then moved back here.
Donnell Alexander (25:00):
And if you had to assess your feelings about California in general, are you a fan?
Kristen Yoder (25:04):
Fucking sad. I’m sad by just everything is catching on fire. Our taxes are crazy, things aren’t getting better. Our taxes keep going up, but they’re not getting better. And in Los Angeles it’s like the homeless situation is out of control. And it’s like, there’s so many big problems here that how do we fucking solve them? Like, I’m at a loss. I feel like a lot of people are to the point where I’m down to move to Denver. I’m pretty sure I’m going to because I’m just, I’m a bitter fucking LA person. I’m tired of the traffic and parking. You know, I’m tired of paying crazy taxes for being self-employed. It’s like, they don’t want you to be a businessperson.
Donnell Alexander (25:47):
Yeah. I haven’t paid my taxes yet. I’m afraid of what I’m going to learn. It’s been a pleasure having you here and the insights just tumble off of you. So that’s also cool. We didn’t have to say very much at all. Did we? Alex?
Alex Halperin (26:01)
Donnell Alexander (26:03):
Well we hope to see you around soon and keep doing what you’re doing but be happy.
Kristen Yoder (26:07):
Donnell Alexander (26:08):
I’m not going to be that guy who says smile, people will like you.
Alex Halperin (26:12):
He’s about to be upset about these things.
Kristen Yoder (26:14):
People love me for who I am because I’m taking on their struggles for them.
Donnell Alexander (26:20):
Alex Halperin (26:21):
Also, where should people find you and follow you?
Kristen Yoder (26:23):
Oh yeah you can find me at soiltotheoil.com. My Instagram is Cannabsdetector. LinkedIn, linkedin.com/in/thatKristenYoder because there was another one.
Donnell Alexander (26:44):
Got it. Thank you very much. And that’s our show for this week. As always, you can find us on Twitter and Instagram at WeedWeek news, or email us firstname.lastname@example.org. And for more weed news, you can sign up for the WeedWeek newsletter. WeedWeek Canada, WeedWeek Canada, WeedWeek California. All of these are available at weedweek.net. And if you’ve gotten this far in the episode, you’re going to want to subscribe. You’re going to want to review. You’re going to want to like this. We’re on iTunes, SoundCloud and Stitcher.
Alex Halperin (27:14):
And I’ve got a tweet this week. We repeat tweets from some of our fan base. We’re going to cheat a little bit. This is a tweet from Donnell @Donnyshell: ” I’m working on next month’s 100th episode of the @WeedWeekNews podcast, collecting highlights for the ep. Got a fave moment from the show? Email email@example.com if ya do. Should we recycle your memory, you’ll get a shoutout. Then you’ll have THAT in your back pocket. Suite!”
Donnell Alexander (27:37):
Suite because I’m clever like that. Listen, this is an opportunity for you to be a part of this very special episode. There are some hilarious moments, not just the Mike Tyson moment, not just the anecdote that Mr. Sherbinski told us, Barbara Ehrenreich and calling us the ones of WeedWeek. I think we need to embrace that and become the ones of WeedWeek, people started mentioning their favorite episodes. Oh my God. Alex Berenson tweeted at me yesterday.
Alex Halperin (28:03):
Oh yeah. I haven’t heard from him in a while.
Donnell Alexander (28:04):
He likes me, it’s weird. Because I say bad things about him. Why shouldn’t he like me? That’s another show. but we want to hear from you. We don’t want to just hear from Alex parents and we want to let you send us some of your favorite episodes. I’m keeping short. Some of the highlights send them to firstname.lastname@example.org, just like 10 or 20 seconds that you think are great. I’ll go find them. Larry, our engineer and I will put it all together. That episode 100 is coming up soon. Send your notes to email@example.com. If you follow me on social media, I’m taking stuff from there too.
Alex Halperin (28:33):
Here’s an unheralded episode. And it was just me. It was from the summer of 2018 with a DC activist. His Twitter handle is I believe DCMJ and he was a just a really smart on the thinking and patience of an activist.
Donnell Alexander (28:53):
I’d like to hear that. Well, I’ll look for it. So, check that episode out but more importantly, we would love to have your involvement.
Alex Halperin (28:59):
I’m Alex Halperin.
Donnell Alexander (29:00):
and I am Donnell Alexander. Our show is produced by Donny Alexander engineered by Larry Buhl and Alicia Byer wrote the theme music.
Alex Halperin (29:07):
See you here next week later.